16-17 has been played on NTS shows including Forager Records, with Promise To Love You first played on 22 June 2023.

Saxophonist Alex Buess and drummer Knut Remond originated 16-17's turbulent sound in the comparatively sedate surroundings of Basel, Switzerland, in 1983. Sharing fellow country-man H.R. Giger's fascination with suppressed horrors, their primal shock therapy raged against passivity. 16-17 were determined to locate a shared melting point for Extremist Rock, Free Music, and Avant-Garde electronic.